Posts by bats in the belfry

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Born-ins. What does this remind you of ?

by DATA-DOG in

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friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blw0mnqh0r8 .

i laughed out loud!

guess you had to be there!

bats in the belfry

2 Train Children in Progressive Steps: Children deserve to be trained at a very early age to accompany their parents in the ministry. Before going in service, prepare your children to participate in a meaningful way. Determine in advance what you expect them to do at the door. Very young children can give out tracts and handbills and invite people to the Kingdom Hall. Young ones who read well can be invited to read scriptures at the door. They can offer the magazines, using a brief presentation. As they gain experience, train them to use the Bible in their presentation. Many young publishers have started their own magazine route and regularly make return visits. It is best for a child to work with an adult rather than with another youngster. The adult can explain to the householder that the young one is being trained in the ministry.

*** km 6/97 p. 3 par. 2 Parents—Train Your Children to Preach ***

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Jesus said: "You received free--give FREE" So, did he not know?

by Terry in

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friends

why do jw's accept contributions?

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bats in the belfry

Terry >> Why do JW's accept contributions?

A.: By accepting contributions JWs are graciously extending to householders an opportunity to make wise use of their material resources. The WTBTS will lighten your burden and manage the money for you if you let them.

Source:

11 Consider, too, what we extend to people with whom we place Bibles or Bible-based literature when we proclaim the Kingdom message and explain to them that we accept contributions to the worldwide work done by Jehovah’s people. Are we not extending to them an opportunity to make wise use of their material resources? Though the original application of Luke 16:10 concerns the use of material resources, the principle stated there also applies in other areas of life.

Question
11. Why should we not hold back from explaining to householders that we accept contributions to the worldwide work done by Jehovah’s Witnesses?

w05 7/15 p. 28 par. 11 Are You Faithful in All Things?

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New "Jehovah's Friend" video - Lesson 3: Pray Anytime

by cedars in

here it is folks.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/pray-anytime/.

sophia takes center stage on this one.. .

cedars.

bats in the belfry

Devout Sophia, . . . at least 7 prayers a day.

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business as usual in my kingdom hall

by nowwhat? in

we have a very dedicated, sincere, humble, older elder body in our hall.

along with a pretty zealous group of publishers.

[even though no one has come out of our territory in 35 years] it seems i am the only one aware of the pattern of false prophecies and mistakes by the society.

bats in the belfry

Those knowing TTATT, could it be a silent majority by now?

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The account of Ananias and Sapphira at Acts 5 categorically proves the Bible is not inerrant

by yadda yadda 2 in

go and read it again at acts 5: 11. ananias and sapphira drop dead at peter's feet for "playing false to god/holy spirit" by not giving all of the money to peter that they got from a field they sold.

ananias and sapphira were christians.

they wanted to help the poor and so sold one of their possessions, a field, and gave most of the money to peter.

bats in the belfry

Weighing Weakness, Wickedness, and Repentance

How can elders know when someone is repentant? This is not a simple question. Think, for example, of King David. He committed adultery and then, in effect, murder. Yet, Jehovah allowed him to keep living. (2 Samuel 11:2-24; 12:1-14) Then think of Ananias and Sapphira. They lyingly tried to deceive the apostles, hypocritically pretending to be more generous than they really were. Serious? Yes. As bad as murder and adultery? Hardly! Yet, Ananias and Sapphira paid with their lives. – Acts 5:1-11.

Why the different judgments? David fell into serious sin because of fleshly weakness. When confronted with what he had done, he repented, and Jehovah forgave him – although he was severely disciplined with regard to problems in his household. Ananias and Sapphira sinned in that they hypocritically lied, trying to deceive the Christian congregation and thus ‘play false to the holy spirit and to God.’ That turned out to be evidence of a wicked heart. Hence, they were judged more severely.

In both cases Jehovah made the judgment, and his judgment was correct because he can examine hearts. (Proverbs 17:3) Human elders cannot do that. So how can elders discern whether a serious sin is evidence of weakness more than of wickedness?

The Watchtower, January 1, 1995, pages 27-28

Q.: Did David not also 'play false' by not confessing? He hid his deed until the prophet showed up in his house. Meanwhile he had Uriah drugged up and later murdered. But NO, he did not deceive the congregation of God (the house of Israel). - Woah!

That's why those of you reporting more field service hours than you actually do will be toast come the big A. — Those of you with an inherent fleshly weakness of screwing other people's mate(s) with intent will live to see the other side.

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What do you think about new jw.org section for children:

by Nebeska Nada in

bats in the belfry

Nebeska Nada >> Nice ambiguity: Play?!? anytime!

. . . oh, dear!

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Did we ever fulfill Mathew 24:14?

by raymond frantz in

i know ... many mistakes and a nasty leadership ,but did jehovah's witnesses fulfill even partially matthew 24:14 :"the good news will be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come "are we to expect a final or a completely different fulfilment of this verse ?

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bats in the belfry

smiddy >> Put your mouse pointer over the map, right click and 'Save Image As..."

Then print the map or run it through a drawing program. like MS Paint, etc.

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Fascinating 1914 exchange between CT Russell and a colporteur

by cedars in

i'm just doing some research for my book, and i uncovered a real gem from the watch tower of july 1st 1914 - published three months before the "gentile times" were due to end climaxing (as they thought back then) in armageddon.. a rather brave "colporteur" (pioneer) wrote in to the magazine asking whether the studies in the scriptures series of books advocating 1914 to be the end of the world should cease to be circulated after october.

not only does the question itself prove that the expectations of publishers back then were entirely contrary to what the society repeatedly implies them to be, but the answer given by russell shows the same arrogance and evasiveness that we see in modern literature from the society, showing how little has changed since those days.. here is the clipping.... .

notice how russell falls back on the same line of argumentation used by the society, namely "we have not attempted to say these views are infallible.".

bats in the belfry

Some explanation - perhaps:

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This just new: Thirty-hour quota for auxiliary pioneering (letter)

by pixel in

i just wanna post post this.

to all congregations.

re: thirty-hour quota for auxiliary pioneering.

bats in the belfry

"Even if the last day of an auxiliary pioneer’s service falls on the first evening of the circuit overseer’s visit, the auxiliary pioneer may choose a 30-hour quota for that month and may attend the circuit overseer’s meeting with the pioneers in its entirety."

They are not stingy at all when it comes to conning you into free labor.

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This just new: Thirty-hour quota for auxiliary pioneering (letter)

by pixel in

i just wanna post post this.

to all congregations.

re: thirty-hour quota for auxiliary pioneering.

bats in the belfry

Thank God for anyone not qualifying for this privilege due to not being approved as examplary publisher by the BOE.